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active power really feasible?


Gerald

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I got myself a Shelly Pro 3EM to measure my total energy consumption of my house. - I installed the Shelly Pro 3EM according the documentation ... I add the clamps on the wires coming into my house right above the fuses.

See Images L1_A_Clamp:

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L2_B_Clamp:
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L3_C_Clamp:

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The orientation is from outside the house towards the fuses as I understood the installation instructions.

The interesting thing is that the active power of L1 (A) is swinging from positive to negative and at present I have no PV-system in my house. - So only consumer are connected to the electrical network. - On L1-phase only a dishwasher is connect as "big consumer".L1_active_power.thumb.png.174b582893bc243bfeba7a2f1b0c7537.png

L2 (B) active power is also mainly negative and only the washing machine is attached to this line as "big consumer".+

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Finally L3 (C) is positive all the time...

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So the total active power looks like this:

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the power factors of all 3 phases are positive between 0,08 and 0,49

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Obviously I miss something here... not sure why active power becomes negative while power factors are positive. - If someone can give me a hint where my error/mistake is hidden... I would be quite grateful.

I guess no calibration is required... it should work out of the box...

Thanks,
Gerald

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thanks for the response. - Each wire has about 230 V voltage between L1(A) and N; L2 and N; L3 and N and those wires are directly attached to the FI-switch.

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Sorry - you should not determine the voltage between live and neutral, but (according to the picture) the voltage between terminal A of the Shelly pro 3EM and the wire at which current clamp A is installed. This voltage has to be zero if the installation is correct. (Do the same for terminal B and clamp B, and for terminal C and clamp C.)

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Ooops - yes thanks I just checked that one and this is okay and finally I found my mistake which is kind of  embarrassing… 

On the FI switch are 4 contacts for L1 to L3 and N and my estimation was the wires are connected in that sequence from left to right. Therefore I interpreted the black wire as L1 and it was the normal guideline to use black for L1 and brown for L2 and grey for L3. 

This afternoon I discovered there were a change in the guidelines back in 2003 switching brown as L1 and black as L2. As I only bought the house and didn’t made any electrical installations I gave it a shot swapped the wires for the A and B clamp.

Now for almost 2 hours I never got any negative active power values and my consumption raised to 1.3 kW.. unfortunately… 🙂

Thanks for helping me… highly appreciated…

Issue seems to be solved…

Gerald

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