Problem no output with shelly 0-10v dimmer

[skank]

Hi,

 

I bought a shelly 0-10v dimmer and  are trying this first before connecting it to my fireplace.

Once installed, i dont get any output on the 0-10v output side.. I measured with a multimeter, but dont get anything.

Allthough its on and 100% is still read 0v

Any idea?

[thgoebel]

The Shelly plus Dimmer 0-10V needs an auxiliary voltage source (e.g. 10V DC). And it’s output will be a modulated PWM signal, not a steady DC voltage! If you would need DC output, you should choose a Shelly Dimmer 0/1-10V Gen3.

Alternatively, you may add a Shelly Add-On plus and wire as following:

Edited October 23, 2024 by thgoebel

[skank]

Hi,

So you are 100% sure it would work with Shelly Dimmer 0/1-10V Gen3. and i will get an output from 1V to 10V right?

I will be able to measure it? 

Maybe i can swap it, i ordered at amazon.de

 

Whats a shelly addon plus?

Maybe its easire for the other dimmer then

[thgoebel]

I‘m 100% sure that the output of the Shelly Dimmer 0/1-10V Gen3 is DC. You may measure it…

For information about Add-On plus have a look at the knowledge base:

https://kb.shelly.cloud/knowledge-base/shelly-plus-add-on

But be aware: Also with the Add-On the output will be PWM, not steady DC voltage!
 

 

[If_then_else]

48 minutes ago, skank said:

Maybe i can swap it, i ordered at amazon.de

Sorry, but I would like to know where you can order Shelly Dimmer 0/1-10V Gen3?

• I've been waiting for around 2 months for the Shelly Dimmer 0/1-10V Gen3 to be available again. 

The alternative to the Shelly Pro Dimmer 0/1-10V PM is around 3 times more expensive than Shelly Dimmer 0/1-10V Gen3 at € 60.-  and, above all, too big to fit in a switch box.

If you have a delivery option, I would be happy to receive a tip from you.

 

[skank]

10 hours ago, If_then_else said:

Sorry, but I would like to know where you can order Shelly Dimmer 0/1-10V Gen3?

• I've been waiting for around 2 months for the Shelly Dimmer 0/1-10V Gen3 to be available again. 

The alternative to the Shelly Pro Dimmer 0/1-10V PM is around 3 times more expensive than Shelly Dimmer 0/1-10V Gen3 at € 60.-  and, above all, too big to fit in a switch box.

If you have a delivery option, I would be happy to receive a tip from you.

 

Did you order the gen3 ?

You can get it here:

https://azerty.nl/product/shelly-dimmer-0-1-10v-pm-gen3-schakelaar/8714578

Its only 20 euro

 

Thats the correct one then?

 

Edited October 24, 2024 by skank

[thgoebel]

That‘s the right one, indeed!

[skank]

ok thx

Strange cause i got this email from their support:

 

It will output voltage, if it has a driver. If it doesn't, then no voltage will be output at all.

 

It will output voltage if theres no driver after it right?

So they are wrong about their own products?

[thgoebel]

Not at all. Seems an issue with language. What they mean is „if you use the correct LED driver (with an active PWM input which delivers a voltage at its terminals), the Shelly will work“.

Just a guess. But most likely true…

[skank]

ok but it will output power if nothing is connected right.

Sorry for the multiple questions but i want to be sure, cause i dont want to buy a second one for nothing again

[thgoebel]

3 minutes ago, skank said:

ok but it will output power if nothing is connected right.

Could you shed some light in this? Don’t understand what you mean.

[skank]

If i power on the shelly, and i dont connect anything to the output side of it... will i be able to measure 0-10v output on that side with multimeter? 

I'm planning to connect it to my fireplace, but theres no leddriver between the output side and the fireplace...

 

 

 

[thgoebel]

We‘re talking of a Shelly plus 0-10V Dimmer, right? If so, you will not measure any voltage at the two terminals +/- 0-10V SELV. The required voltage must be delivered by the LED driver (the device is intended to dim suitable LED drivers).

Don‘t know much about your fireplace. Mine is powered with firewood. No electric appliances…

[skank]

1 hour ago, skank said:

If i power on the shelly, and i dont connect anything to the output side of it... will i be able to measure 0-10v output on that side with multimeter? 

I'm planning to connect it to my fireplace, but theres no leddriver between the output side and the fireplace...

 

 

 

No this questions is about the new one proposed here... https://azerty.nl/product/shelly-dimmer-0-1-10v-pm-gen3-schakelaar/8714578

Cause shelly support says: it will output voltage, if it has a driver. If it doesn't, then no voltage will be output at all.

 

 

So for me the Shelly plus 0-10V Dimmer is useless, i will probably sell it to my friend but he's not sure it will work either..

Will the Shelly plus 0-10V Dimmer work with this: 

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Edited October 24, 2024 by skank

[thgoebel]

Thanks for this correction. The Shelly Dimmer 0/1-10V Gen3 delivers a DC voltage between 0 and 10V at its terminals +/- 0-10V. But this voltage cannot drive a load: Maximum current is 35mA only! Thus, this voltage is for control purposes only.

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[skank]

21 minutes ago, thgoebel said:

Thanks for this correction. The Shelly Dimmer 0/1-10V Gen3 delivers a DC voltage between 0 and 10V at its terminals +/- 0-10V. But this voltage cannot drive a load: Maximum current is 35mA only! Thus, this voltage is for control purposes only.

Sorry for not opening unknown files! Please attach the picture here.

Ok then i think it will work for me with The Shelly Dimmer 0/1-10V

I adjusted the picture above

[skank]

Any idea?

[thgoebel]

An idea for what, please?

[skank]

So for me the Shelly plus 0-10V Dimmer is useless, i will probably sell it to my friend but he's not sure it will work either..

Will the Shelly plus 0-10V Dimmer work with the picture above 

[thgoebel]

The picture above shows a simple power supply without any means for dimming. Assume it is a supply for a notebook. Your Shelly plus 0-10V Dimmer will not work with this device.

BTW: It would be brilliant to learn about your aim…

[skank]

2 hours ago, thgoebel said:

The picture above shows a simple power supply without any means for dimming. Assume it is a supply for a notebook. Your Shelly plus 0-10V Dimmer will not work with this device.

BTW: It would be brilliant to learn about your aim…

My friend has a switch leading to this power supply, after the power supply theres a led strip

So io guess it wont work